QB rushing: should it contribute to Performance Gain?

QB rushing: should it contribute to Performance Gain?
It's come to light that perhaps QB rushing yards should contribute to their chances of performance gain. The proposal is that for each 100 yards rushing the player would gain 1 pt. on their QB rating which is used to determine PGs. If a QB has 200 rushing yards they would get 2 pts added to QB rating. If 199, only 1 pt. There would be a maximum 500 yards counted, so at most 5 pts added to the QB rating. If you support this and would like to institute this as a new rule, vote YES. If you think things are best the way they are and would like no change, vote NO.

Obviously I am slightly biased, but here are some legitimate reasons for: 1. QB rushing yards take away potential yards from running backs, wide receivers, and pass yards, but count nothing towards a quarterbacks performance. 2. A quarterback is not allowed to qualify for rushing yards perf gains, so this is just a little something to reward a quarterback. 3. Running backs can receive yards for receiving, yet quarterbacks rush yards do not count. 4. A total of 5 max points in passer rating is realistically a 1-3% increase in overall rating. Hardly anything, but just a little incentive for a rushing quarterback. 5. Again, this rule seems like it would not be a big deal , but would give at least something for one's efforts towards perf gains, just like any other position deserves.

I'm against it, rushing w/ the QB gives your team a benefit, but I don't feel there's any real reason to add it to QB rating. If anything make it so that QB's are able to qualify for a PG (in their QB stats) via rushing in their MS tier, but I don't think they should have points added to their qb rating.

absolutely.... NAWT!!!

I voted definitely NO. However, there is merit to the idea, I just think it is in the wrong context. I think that the 'problem' is that QBs should get PG based on Yardage just like a WR or RB. I mean - we don't take Yards Per Carry for RBs! We take Total yards but taking yards per carry is equal to what we do with QBS basically. I think that it is wrong to take QB ranking as the PG and it should be Total yards pass+rush for the qb. The reason is because you could have a QB with 250 pass attempts compared to one with only 105. It is much easier to have a higher passer rating with lower attempts. Similarly, it is easier to have a higher YPC for a RB with fewer rushes. It is just wrong to base PG for QB on 'rating' but all other skill positions on yardage. Do it all on yardage for all positions and count the running yards.

I agree w/ berger. Should have more to do with a seperate PG for rushing.

....but common sense dictates that using rating for QBs is wrong when you use yardage for all other skill positions!

Not being penalized for interceptions is just wrong. I personally would love to see a formula for RB's PG. (Rush yds+ (TD*10))/att with a att qualifier would be my vote. WR I don't really see a fair formula. I also think that passer rating as a formula sucks ass. Perhaps a fantasy football look would work? (Pass yds/5)+3(TD-INT)?? Just a few suggestions.

Common sense does not dictate that yardage should be used for qbs. There is more to being a qb then just throwing for yards. Interceptions and completion % are a huge factor in how well a qb performs. Especially in a game like tecmo using yards only to judge a qb for a gain is silly.

To me nothing is worse than raw stats so yes comp% is far more important. However yards per attempt is possibly the best gauge for a QB. Even YPA/(int%/2 ot 3) would be more effective than passer rating

Maybe something like the fantasy football format you mentioned.

Common sense does not dictate that yardage should be used for qbs. There is more to being a qb then just throwing for yards. Interceptions and completion % are a huge factor in how well a qb performs. Especially in a game like tecmo using yards only to judge a qb for a gain is silly. But not as silly as using the QB rating. The law of avg. dictates that the more often you throw the lower your rating will be. Thats a fact. It is no more silly than using yards per carry for a RB. I agree that there is more to it than just yards but certainly the more often you run a runninback the more yards he will get towards his PG. However the opposite holds true for the QB. It is just wrong to award high usage to WR and RB but hurt the QB position by high usage. *see my above post*

Common sense does not dictate that yardage should be used for qbs. There is more to being a qb then just throwing for yards. Interceptions and completion % are a huge factor in how well a qb performs. Especially in a game like tecmo using yards only to judge a qb for a gain is silly. But not as silly as using the QB rating. The law of avg. dictates that the more often you throw the lower your rating will be. Thats a fact. It is no more silly than using yards per carry for a RB. I agree that there is more to it than just yards but certainly the more often you run a runninback the more yards he will get towards his PG. However the opposite holds true for the QB. It is just wrong to award high usage to WR and RB but hurt the QB position by high usage. *see my above post* Ok, maybe I am just not understanding something here. EX: I throw 100 attempts. I complete 70 of them for 70%. 700 yards thrown for. How does throwing 300 attempts change that average. Wouldn't this just mean this if I threw 300 pass attempts my line should look like this. 300 attempts. I complete 210 of them for 70%. 2,100 yards thrown for. Wouldn't it be the exact same rating? I don't think it matters how many attempts you throw for. The only difference throwing for less attempts means, is that magnifies a touchdown or an interception. I just don't understand how more attempts means a lesser rating?

The fact is that you are misapplying or not fully understanding the law of averages/large numbers. The law of averages/large numbers states that as the number of trials increase the random variable/event theoretically approaches and stays closer to its expected value. So in WTF terms if your QB has a few good games but actually sucks and continues to throw his qb rating will theoretically decrease until it reaches the true level of his suckiness. BUT if you have a raw QB like say Scott Mitchell and have a bad first few games, then the more attempts he has will theoretically increase his rating and eventually get closer to his level of rawness. I stand by my argument that using yards for QBs is silly. You can also throw the freaking ball 120 yds in this game so rewarding CC/JJ nation for chucking ti down the field is not the way to go imo.

Paulie, To put it simply what you are saying is that if a RB only runs once and it is for a 75 yard td then if he ran 100 times his stat line should read: 100 att. 7500 yds. 75 TDS.

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